The watch is signed on the dial and on the movement and on the case elgin. Eventually they introduced 17 jewel watches, then 21 jewel and finally 23 jewel for their top of the line. Elgin gold plated pocket watch for railroad conducter. See more ideas about watches, pocket watch and jewels. Antique mechanical pocket watch repair, cleaning, repair. The rich history of the elgin national watch company originally the national watch co. Shop forand learn aboutvintage and antique elgin pocket watches. Jewels running gold pocket watch 1917 keystone 25 yr. In a jeweled lever watch, the first seven jewels employed in the construction of the watch are typically. New listing hamilton 992 double roller 21 jewel railroad pocket watch 14k gold filled 1925.
On april 18, 1891 in kipton, ohio a passenger train collided with a mail freight train killing eight people including both conductors. Elgin 17 jewel pocket watch size 18 open face 1896. When he had to buy a new one in about 1984, he gave this one to my brother. A lesser quality watch would only be made with a few jewels. And, contrary to common belief, there were many regulations in place before webb c. Elgin probably flipflopped more than most since you would have a bw raymond that was, 18s,16s,12s in various jewel count, where a hamilton was more strict, a 992 was a 16s 21j and not an 18s 19j.
Serial number 19900812 year 1916 grade 290 size 16s code h3n6p jewels 7j. Also, it seems to work, but i cant figure ot how to set the time. A pocket watch or pocketwatch is a watch that is made to be carried in a pocket, as opposed. Raymond 21, 19 and 17 jewel as meeting railroad service requirements. Casker is a leading supplier of wrist watch, pocket watch, and clock parts to professional horologists. Big 1915 elgin 17 jewel mechanical pocket watch grade 336. The time museum historical catalogue of american pocket watches. For more information see the watch serial number web page. Railroad pocket watches were developed for all employees in the u. Download this pocket watch antique vintage art nouveau for your android. Jewelry open face 17 jewel elgin pocket watch for auction.
Sep 16, 2010 elgin probably flipflopped more than most since you would have a bw raymond that was, 18s,16s,12s in various jewel count, where a hamilton was more strict, a 992 was a 16s 21j and not an 18s 19j. If a watch grade sold well, elgin would assign additional runs and high volume watches might have 10,000 or 20,000 serial numbers in a single run. Antique elgin pocket watch circa 1927 railroad quality. Elgin gold plated antique pocket watches with 15 jewels. Explains the wear problems inherent in nonjeweled bushings in lower grade american pocket watches. Elgin veritas 21 jewel 18 size railroad pocket watch gold filled case look offered is an18s elgin veritas pocket watch in a stag engraved gold filled case.
Railroad grade pocket watches explained the vortic blog. Gold 1924 elgin 21 jewel bw raymond railroad grade pocket watch large 16s. Whether you are looking for a gift or pocket watches for sale on ebay, tips and advice about buying on ebay, watch winders, or just fascinating facts about pocket watch makers, like waltham, elgin, hampden, rolex, theyre all here. Antique elgin pocket watch circa 1927 railroad quality duration. Get the best deals on elgin open face antique pocket watches with 17 jewels when you shop the largest online selection at.
It was the genuine, audacious, selfreliant western spirit. Here is an explanation for sn4231541 which is a fairly typical example. We carry all available brands of watch material including crystals. Elgin father time 21j railroad grade 18s pocket watch.
This is a quality old watch from one of americas premier watch manufacturers. Find great deals on beautiful antique pocket watches when you shop. Raymond 21, 19 and 17jewel as meeting railroad service requirements. This piece features a yellow gold filled keystone watch case. Elgin gold plated antique pocket watches with 15 jewels for. Jun 22, 2014 rare elgin 324 pocket watch 17 jewels dairy milk cow hunting dog phesant works ebay stay safe and healthy. Star watch case company, 12kt gold filled, 7374203 marks on inside. Serial number lookup example explained the output from the online elgin database is very terse. Smart antique elgin gold filled open face pocket watch. The generally accepted dates for the last run of grade 571 would place it in 1954. Get the best deals on antique pocket watches with 17 jewels when you shop the largest online selection at. This watch has a glass montgomery dial with nearly invisible hairlines, heavy fahys montauk goldfilled case with no brass showing, bright 21 jewel veritas movement with diamond end stone. Elgin pocket watch, size 18, lever set, philadelphia gf case, engraved hunter case, 17 jewels, sn 14838706 c. The up down indicator refers to the 2ndary dial at 12 oclock which is a power reserve indicator.
Elgin bw raymond model patented gold filled pocket watch with updown indicator and subsidiary seconds. Elgin gold plated 18 pocket watch antique pocket watches for sale. Le jour 17 jewels pocket watch decorated with hunter scene on the top cover, floral pattern on the back. Buy elgin bw raymond antique railroad pocket watch 16 size 21 jewels circa 1924 with the up down wind indicator and other pocket watches at. New listing 1919 hamilton 975 16size 17 jewel pocket watch union case w masonic symbols. Pocketwatch 101 the problem with sevenjewel watches. Get the best deals on elgin 17 jewels antique pocket watches when you shop the largest online selection at. Vintage elgin watch co 17 jewels pocket watch gold filled j. So if you tell your friend you have a 2003 ford f150, and he says he has a 2008 ford f150 you both know there is some difference between them. Elgin national watch company in the spring of 1864 half a dozen ambitious chicago businessmen decided that if massachusetts could build a factory that built watches illinois could, too. Vintage elgin 18 size 15 jewels pocket watchserviced oldetimetreasures. Rare elgin 324 pocket watch 17 jewels dairy milk cow. On the block today we have a very nice elgin 21 jewel 18 size pocket watch.
The hampden pocket watch started with 15 jeweled models in their early railroad watches, 15 jewels being the minimum standard for a railroad grade. Rare elgin 324 pocket watch 17 jewels dairy milk cow hunting. Advance, age, atlas watch co california watch, the chief model, the convertible model, the h. Eventually they introduced 17 jewel watches, then 21. The watch is all original and runs but is being sold as is for restoration. Some of the gold plating has rubbed off the back, leaving gold in the etching of the train engine, tracks, and grass areas. A vintage elgin illinois railroad pocket watch with gold filled case and bold black numbers to the white dial. Grade, model 1883, hunting style mens pocket watch. Elgin usa steel railroad pocket watch 1920 la79749. Model 916 with 17 jewels, gold jewel cups and 3 adjustments to this most beautiful.
Elgin 1898 model 7 18s 17j railroad grade open face pocket. These railroadgrade pocket watches, as they became colloquially known, had to meet the. Owners can trace their pocket watchs history by obtaining the unique serial number featured on the movement part of the watchnot the watch case, which displays only a case serial number. How to find the serial number on an elgin pocket watch. Elgin watches were manufactured in illinois from 1864 to 1968. Youre bidding on an all original elgin steel railroad open face pocket watch, made in usa in 1920.
Pocket watch identification and value guide the spruce crafts. Elgin 12 size, 15 jewels, hunting style mens pocket watch. Big 1899 elgin bw raymond railroad grade pocket watch heavy 18s roman nums nice. To accurately read the serial number, you will need to determine the best way to open the case, which varies from model, size and style. Please practice handwashing and social distancing, and check out our resources for adapting to these times.
Raymond sn k 696370 is in a classic teardrop model 3055 case. This watch is a 21 jewel adjusted railroad watch in a nice gold filled case. Elgin railroad pocket watch with updown power reserve. The elgin watch company, out of elgin, illinois, was in business from 18641964, and while active, was the largestproducing american watch company, manufacturing an estimated half of all pocket watches dollar watches not included. This watch has a 16s size 52mm base metal case with a beautiful etching on the back. The double sink railroad dial has a light hairline at 12. Get the best deals on pocket watch case when you shop the largest online selection at.
Nice, wind up elgin pocket watch was used by my ex, who was a conducter for the southern pacific railroad in california. Hamilton 940 rr grade 18s 21 jewels pocket watch rare motor barrel. Elgin veritas 23 jewel railroad grade open face pocket watch grade. For example, the only railroad grade pocket watch that elgin was making in the 1950s was the grade 571, and they didnt start selling the b. Waltham 18 size 17 jewel grade 825 model 1883 pocket watch 72647. Discussed the differences between jeweled and nonjeweled bearings and illustrates common wear conditions in seven jewel watches. This is an elgin pocket watch in a railroad case and it is gold filled and excellent in all. A 1914 catalog listed 16size grades similarly listed were grades veritas 21 and 23jewel, father time 21jewel, and b.
Throughout their history, the elgin national watch company was known for horological innovations. The inside says father time, adjustment 5 positions, 21 jewels and i think the serial number reads 20030729. The specific definition of railroad grade evolved quite a bit over the years. Free shipping on many items browse your favorite brands affordable prices. Lakeside hampden 17 jewels 18 size railroad grade pocket watch multi color dial. In 1958, they introduced the durabalance, an ingenious design for a freesprung balance. Rare illinois 18s railway style 17 jewels 1906 pocket watch, good condition. Elgin usa steel railroad pocket watch 1920worldwide shipping. How to find the serial number on an elgin pocket watch our. Elgin open face antique pocket watches with 17 jewels for. Nov 05, 2015 serial number 19900812 year 1916 grade 290 size 16s code h3n6p jewels 7j.
Elgin antique pocket watches with railroad watch for sale ebay. Generally, an ebook can be downloaded in five minutes or less. Get the best deals on elgin antique pocket watches with 17 jewels 16 pocket watch when you shop the largest online selection at. Antique pocket watches 19001909 year of manufacture for sale. Vintage elgin 18 size 7 jewels silverode case pocket watch oldetimetreasures. Each section of the output is broken out and all parts. The company built the elgin national watch company observatory in 1910 to help maintain scientifically precise times in their watches. Switzerland, mans quarter repeating carillon verge fusee pocket watch with three jacquemarts, key wind and set gilt movement with ornately engraved bottom plate, in an 18 karat, yellow gold, hinged back and bezel, reeded edge open face case and arabic numeral, white enamel skeletonized dial, with multicolor gold jacquemarts striking faux bells as the watch counts the hours and quarters, and. Ball argued that 17 or 19jewel watches were best for railroad service.
Check out our elgin pocket watch selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade. Hamilton 924 18s 17j railroad nickel silver case silverodefine condition. This illinois hunter case pocket watch was special for a railroad company. Excellent 15jewel elgin 18s pocket watch 16831426 1912 working order. Jewelry open face 17 jewel elgin pocket watch azfirearms. So, for example, all the serial numbers between 11,222,001 and 11,223,000 are grade 297 watches. Elgin 12 size 17 jewels open face arabic dial white gold clad pocket watch. The serial number must be off the movement of the watch where the gears are, not off the case. Elgin shipped their first wristwatch in 1910, and later manufactured the first wrist watch to be qualified for railroad service, the grade 730a b. Antique pocket watches with 17 jewels for sale ebay.
Vintage and antique elgin pocket watches collectors weekly. All those factorsruggedness, durability, cost, ease of servicingwere why webb c. Walthamball official rr standard sn b 263497 in its stirrup bow case is also highly recognizable as a railroad watch. To be a railroad grade watch, the following criteria must be met. Antique elgin pocket watch 17 jewels gold filled description. Elgin national watch company serial number, elgin pocket watch. Serviced mens elgin wristwatch 17 jewel circa 1936 10k gold filled art deco.
Antique elgin pocket watch repair, mechanical elgin pocket. Elgin grade numbers was in grading systems nawcc forums. Elgin 17 jewels antique pocket watches for sale ebay. Elgin national watch company, elgin, illinois rails west. It was designed to be quickly read by knowledgeable elgin watch collectors and needs a little explaining for everyone else. Such things as conical pivots and cap jewels made the watches more delicate and more difficult and costly to service. Get the best deals on elgin antique pocket watches with railroad. The original white enamel dial has golden arabic numerals with outer minute divisions and outer red 160 minute numbers. Farwell, father time in in 17 jewel through 21 jewel, w. Beautiful condition enamel dial with blued steel hands. Elgin antique railroad 17 jewels pocket watch oct 05.
Elgin typically would allocate blocks or runs of serial numbers in multiples of. Movement marked elgin natl watch co, usa, 17 jewels, 16521492. Star watch case company, 12kt gold filled, 7374203. Our wide selection is eligible for free shipping and free returns. Model number case number name line subline cost jewels details. A railroad grade pocket watch is simply a watch that was approved by a particular railroad organization for use by conductors on their rail.
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